Theft in Texas Can Equal to Death?

by KatrinaPallikaris on June 17, 2013 - 12:01am

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/acquitted_texas_theft_protecting_x...

I found this article very interesting.  In Texas, if someone is stealing from you on your property, you are allowed to kill them in defence.  In 2009, a man hired a prostitute and paid her $150.  After she refused to have intercourse with him and refused to give back the money, he shot her several times.  She passed away a few months later and he was not sent to jail out of reasons of self defense.

Should this man go to jail for murder, regardless of what the laws in Texas are and his reasons for shooting her?

I believe that he should definitely be sent to prison.  Although the prostitute was wrong in taking his money without returning her services, shooting her was not the proper thing to do.  This man took away this woman’s life because of this.

On the other hand, the law in Texas clearly states that if someone is stealing from you on your property, you have the right to defend yourself and that was what he was trying to do.  Therefore, he shouldn’t go to jail based on the law.

Do you agree that this man should go to jail for murder or do you agree that he had every right to end this woman’s life because she was stealing on his property?

Comments

I always knew that Texas had strict laws in regards of crime. I know that they have the death penalty but I wasn't aware of other types of laws they had implemented which is why I was so intrigued by this topic. It's quite unique on how laws differ from one state to another. I always thought that being very strict with severe punishments was the way to resolve and decrease crime rates but I was wrong. Based on statistics, the death penalty does not deter crime rate. We would think that people would avoid doing certain things in order to escape death but this isn't the case. This is why my opinion has completely changed about these types of laws since there are no significant differences. This law that states that one has the right to kill another whom is stealing sounds absurb to me. A person who is thief, does not have his/her right social morals and values in the right place but that is not enough of a reason to take their life away. In other words, for someone to deserve to be killed, they need to hurt another person physically. The case would have to be severe and intended causing an incredible amount of pain and trauma to the victim. People make mistakes and I know many people my age who have stolen before which is why I believe that the consequences of stealing should not be taken to that extreme. The case of the man shooting the prostitute and getting no type of punishment shows the corruption in the judicial system. Theft should never be considered as bad murder. Paper bills or tangible objects do not outweigh the life of an individual. 



Even though I disagree completely on his actions and the fact that he took the situation out of proportion, I do not think he should go to jail as for the law clearly states that he is allowed to kill when someone is stealing from his property. In a way, I think that it’s more Texas’ fault for allowing such chaotic misfortunes to occur in the first place. With this law, they give the idea that it is permitted and that it should be done. The man did have a lack of judgement but how can he know it’s wrong when theres a law that claims otherwise? I strongly believe he knew the impact of his actions but for the reason that this law is established, I believe he should not go to jail. 



We definitely need to take into account the law and the reasons why he killed her in order to make a decision on whether or not he should go to jail. However, if I were to ignore these factors and just focus on the crime itself, yes indeed I would believe that the man should go to jail. But this is not the case in our society, we must take every piece of information and contribute it to our final choice. 



I disagree with you when you mention in your argument that he should have went to jail because what he did was not proper. Unfortunately those two things don’t have a direct impact on each other. Who is to say one should go to jail? It’s the judicial system that chooses and not our logical reasoning. What is proper is left for the state of Texas to define and even though our perception of this situation tells us it is not right and he deserves some kind of justice or karma, he still was obeying the law and did the proper action according to the law.



When I was young, I heard a story about a man who stole a snickers bar in Texas who had to serve a 16 year sentence in prison. I was so shocked by that story that it always remained in my head. This is a perfect example on how to judicial system can be unfair and how they do not closely examine the gravity and the consequences of a crime. It shows how one can get punishment for stealing a chocolate bar but another can get away for murder. For further reading on this old story, you can go read the following article: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/040700-01.htm

Reading this story was quite shocking to me. I have never heard of this story. This story interests me because I have always been interested in court cases, reading about investigations and so on.

In my opinion, this man should not go to jail, but only because the law says he shouldn't. I also believe that Texas should change their law immediately. What this man had did is unacceptable regardless of the reason. No one deserves to die over 150$.

If this occurred anywhere else, I would vote to send this man to jail, because the law is the law, and no one may question it. It certainly is unfair to the girl who had been murdered, although she is to blame for what had happened unfortunately.

I agree when you had said that this man should go to jail. Murder is a unforgivable crime. I also agree when you had said that the prostitute was wrong when she kept his money, but at the same time, I feel like she kind of asked for it by taking his money and not providing the service that he had paid for.

I feel like this article can be related to your issue. Your situation talks about how man is set free after murdering a woman. This article talks about how that defendant believes that his jail sentence of minimum 20 years may be too excessive for beating a woman up with a weapon. I belief that he deserve more than 20 years because he had not a single reason to attack her.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-22206005

I believe that although the law states that if you don't provoke the person, you are allowed to use deadly force, it should not be used. I think that in certain situations emotions come in to play and we lose our objective view on the situation and don't think like we necessarily would. I think it is normal for the man to be mad because she is stealing his money but then again it isn't a reason to kill someone especially if it is only over 150$ which is when we think of it not that much in comparison to the value of cars or houses. I think that their law needs to be reviewed and evolve because our society has evolved and they can't keep some mindsets in today's world. As McBride Law states in their article about Stand-Your-Ground Laws, It has happened way too many times that citizens have misunderstood these laws and take them to their advantage which means that many people have had deadly force applied to them without reason. They also explain how some things such as protecting yourself before taking the decision of applying deadly force should be done to avoid accidents.

http://www.mcbride-law.com/armed-citizens/stand-your-ground/

The case you chose is interesting since in the news they does not really talk about murder except when it is about important or really shoking cases, and of course, in our society, the murder of a prostitute is not taken as serisouly as it should. It is sad that the errors in the criminal justice system deprives some people to obtain justice. Even if she was a prositute, she was still a human being, with probably a family, but also value. Unfortunately, changing a system like this cannot be done as easily and quickly as we would like. This system is like an octopus, with many tentacles, really complex to examine and improve. But even if it takes time, it should be done, for the good of all. I found an article that looked at issues from many sides of the criminal justice system, for instance; the cops, the laws, and the lawyers. http://www.thecrimereport.org/viewpoints/2014-03-the-paradigm-shift-in-c... . Hopefully, one day we will have a criminal justice system just and right.

The case you chose is interesting since in the news they does not really talk about murder except when it is about important or really shoking cases, and of course, in our society, the murder of a prostitute is not taken as serisouly as it should. It is sad that the errors in the criminal justice system deprives some people to obtain justice. Even if she was a prositute, she was still a human being, with probably a family, but also value. Unfortunately, changing a system like this cannot be done as easily and quickly as we would like. This system is like an octopus, with many tentacles, really complex to examine and improve. But even if it takes time, it should be done, for the good of all. I found an article that looked at issues from many sides of the criminal justice system, for instance; the cops, the laws, and the lawyers. http://www.thecrimereport.org/viewpoints/2014-03-the-paradigm-shift-in-c... . Hopefully, one day we will have a criminal justice system just and right.

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